WIN, LOSE, OR DRAW
The battle royale between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin was one of the most hotly anticipated events of the campaign--and the shocking news is that both sides claimed a measure of victory. "Who Won Biden-Palin Debate?," with 43 props, 380 comments, and 8,841 page views, saw victory dances on both sides of the aisle. But for starters: had the pre-debate attacks on moderator Gwen Ifill's objectivity been justified? Said earthlingerer: "Sure, the moderator is pro-Obama, but she gave a fair shake to both parties, and was completely neutral." Added ratskii: "The whole point of the Republicans' attack on the moderator prior to the debate was to make her too nervous to call Palin on her refusal to answer the questions." Klarissa disagreed: "The moderator is one of the least nervous journalists in the business. You insult her." And how about the performance of the candidates themselves? Bucotch was squarely in Palin's corner: "All Biden did was to spew out untrue crap about McCain." Added eagle27: "Palin did a remarkable job against this Beltway Insider." Not so, said Noiknow: "As an educated professional woman, I really wanted Sarah Palin to redeem herself from her earlier interviews, but I was very appalled at her behavior.... It left a bad taste in my mouth." Another member, most_reasonable, delivered a similar verdict: "Sarah was just Bush in a skirt. From 'nukular' to the folksy winks and mispronunciations, she was saying to her base: if you like what GWB did for the country, I'm more of the same." Still, many GOP stalwarts, such as DaneL, refused to fly the white flag of surrender: "Palin won BIG TIME and it just drives the left nuts. Get used to it." Other related stories included "Biden: 14 Lies During the Vice Presidential Debate," with 69 props, 291 comments, and 13,808 page views. Blackacereturn took issue with the entire post: "Biden was a terrible selection? Are you playing with a full deck? They are beating the crap out of your guys in almost every state." But RedRiverJ summoned a former GOP contender to the witness stand: "Fred Thompson was on after the debate, said he was there during those votes, said Joe was exaggerating a whole bunch." DEVIL'S ADVOCATE?
In troubled times like these, it's natural to look for a fall guy--even a diabolical one. That must explain the appeal of "Bill Gates: Satanist in Sheep's Clothes?" The story racked up 117 props, 35 comments, many of them amusing. CRYMPTYPHON wondered if the author playing with a remotely full deck: "A minor amount of insanity can add a dash of 'interesting' to a person's world view. Then, of course, there is just plain smack-dab-in-the-middle of Crazy Town. This article is from the main town square of Crazy Town, written by someone very close to the mayor." Asked simonsez: "Why is this story on Prop?" Answered memestryker: "Freedom of speech? And comic relief!" Natureboy, meanwhile, found additional evidence of Gates's diabolical nature: "Bill Gates is Satan. Those who worship him are Satanists. OTOH, those who use his OS are merely an unfortunate bunch of tools." Added jonmaverick: "I knew Bill Gates was the devil the very first time I tried to network two computers running Windows 95." But it was HomerJS49 who wondered why all the great historical conspiracies never seemed to pay off--the Illuminati never ended up running the world, after all. "Why can't they ever seem to accomplish their goals?" he asked. "Here we are, hundreds of years [after] the Knights Templar, yet no New World Order." Perhaps he spoke too soon. At least according to Mdiar: "All the other Grandmasters were incompetent. I'm not. I will rule as the head of the New World Order! Only tin foil can stop me now!" BLAME GAME
As the fiscal crisis deepens, an orgy of finger-pointing has gotten underway. "Democrat Fingerprints are all over the financial crisis" generated 68 props and 276 comments. Said 4thchance: "This is a Democrat-led conspiracy to destroy our economy under the Bush administration." ProudBlueTexan responded at once to this shot across the bow: "Abolish the GOP!" Wolfie2007 argued for the appointment of a special prosecutor to dig through the whole mess: "If it's George Bush's fault, then he should be frogmarched out of the White House. But the same goes for any guilty party. Hey, liberal Democrats, do you want to get on board the Special Prosecutor Express?" Added flyonthewallzz: "I have no wish to defend either political party. My finger is pointed at the industry. I do not think the tools of justice that we have are strong enough to prosecute the limited-liability folks." There was a similar expression of bipartisan disgust from cowboygrandpa: "No amount of spin will pin this upon the Democrats or Republicans. It is individuals within both parties who have a special place in their hearts for the greedy, uncaring, financially imprudent, dyed-in-the-wool loan sharks." Meanwhile, another post exhumed a considerably older financial meltdown: "Keating Economics: John McCain and the Making of a Financial Crisis," with 124 props and 226 comments. Georgia50 argued that the senator from Arizona had been no more than a convenient whipping boy when the Keating scandal erupted: "The Democrat investigating the Keating 5 found absolutely no wrongdoing by McCain. He went to his [Democratic] taskmasters and told them McCain should not be part of the investigation." But ETproductions criticized McCain's zeal for deregulation throughout his career: "[McCain] now claims he's going to 'Clean up the greed and corruption on Wall Street and K Street.'.... That's what the regulators you hate actually are for, Senator." Meanwhile, BB64 claimed some insider knowledge of the whole Keating fiasco: "I know Bob Bennett, and in an open discussion with a few cigars and brandy, he was very clear [that] the attacks on McCain were prosecutorial misconduct and done as a political cheap shot." (Oh, there was also a more tongue-in-cheek take on the current disaster: "Investment Banks Switch Status To 'Casinos,'" with 90 props and 62 comments.) AND DON'T OVERLOOK
Which story generated the longest conversation this week? That would be "Teacher Suspended For Racial Slur Directed At Obama," with 71 votes, 868 comments, and 111,488 page views. The thread included some pathetic defenses of bigotry. A handful of Propeller members denied that racial prejudice even existed, but at age 60, cushi declared herself a longtime veteran of its effects: "I have [had] firsthand experiences with racism from the time I could walk and talk to the present." Elsewhere, the community sounded off on the national debt clock, military voters, and Obama's relationship with William Ayers. And while glimmers of humor were far and few between, at least one extra slice of silliness crept into our Top Twenty: "Eighth-Grade Scientist Successfully Isolates Self From Classmates," with 105 props and 24 comments. Beau7890 suggested that the young scientist's experimentation was only beginning: "He hopes this [additional] research, done solely with his broadband Internet connection, his ergonomic chair, and himself as the subject (naturally), can be used to help him and others like him tolerate the disregard of females. I just hope he doesn't go blind." Added Charlson: "The boy later grew up to become the Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski." Which gave BronxBomber a perfect opening: "Things just blew outta proportion with Ted." Bombs away, folks, and we'll be back next week.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
1. EVERY EUROPEAN NATION THINKS OBAMA'S PLANS TO INCEASE CORPORATE TAXES
IS THE WRONG MOVE.. ALMOST ALL OF EUROPE HAS DECEASED THE CORPORATE BUSINESS TAX LEVELS LIKE MCCAIN HAS SUGGESTED.. OBAMA HAS PLANS TO TAX
BUSINESS TO DEATH..
Here read for yourself -- what european nations have done.. Do you think Obama knows more then all of Europe?
http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb_0707_48.pdf
Posted at 2:17PM on Oct 11th 2008 by JIM
2.
WHAT A PHONY... OBAMA CAUGHT RUNNING A CON GAME ON AMERICANS ONCE
AGAIN..
Obama has been going around for months on the campaign trail showing
voters in a TV ad a home video of men returning from a space
mission.. He trys to make people think that he and his grandfather
shot this so called home video.. BUT FUNNY THING IS.. Obama was not
even on US soil when that video took place.. That video is of the
Apollo 11 space mission that took place on July 16 1969... Obama
has admitted in both of his books that he lived in Indonesia when he
was 6 to 10.. He was born on August 4, 1961.. Do the math people.. IN
NOWAY WAS OBAMA AT THAT EVENT.. HE WAS IN INDONESIA AT THE TIME THAT
EVENT TOOK HAPPEN.. YOU ARE HAVING A CON GAME RUN ON YOU..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
Obama has noted in his two books, "Dreams From My Father" and "The
Audacity of Hope," that he spent two years in a Muslim school and
another two years in a Catholic school while living in Indonesia from
age 6 to 10.
Posted at 2:19PM on Oct 11th 2008 by JIM
3. YET ANOTHER OBAMA CON GAME RUN ON THE VOTERS..
TALK ABOUT RUNNING A CON GAME ON AMERICANS.. EVEN BUSH WOULDN'T STOOP THIS LOW..
THE OBAMA CON GAME HE PULLED ON AMERICANS..
TALK ABOUT OBAMA AND FREE SPEECH...LOL HE DISALLOWED THE GERMANS TO HAVE THEIR FREE SPEECH.
SOMETHING MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT OBAMA AND HIS GERMANY SPEECH... THIS IS WHAT HIS CAMPAIGN DIDN'T TELL AMERICANS.
Obama's campaign reportedly had banned signs and posters from a scheduled outdoor Berlin speech the German media is reporting may
draw a crowd of 1 million but in reality only 200 thousand had actually shown up.....
The move effectively bans protesters from brandishing anti-Obama material at the speech, which is expected to garner widespread international media attention.
"Barack Obama forbids protest posters," reads a headline in the German daily Bild.
The article states: "Obama's organization is leaving nothing to chance. As of Monday, flyers are being passed out near [the site of Obama's speech] that read 'Posters & banners not allowed.' For
security reasons visitors should not take purses or backpacks.
Berliner Morgenpost, another German newspaper, reports the move to ban posters came from Obama's "supervisors," even though German security forces are tasked with providing the presidential candidate's security.
So tell me..Since the Obama campaign had planned for 1 million people to attend this circus event and only 200 thousand showed up... Doesn't that mean that 800 thousand people that were going to protest against Obama were turned away.. Wondering minds want to know..lol
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/berlin_event/
WHAT A PHONY....Obama tied to con America into thinking he was something he's not..lol
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70197
WHAT BIDEN THINKS ABOUT iran..
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2008/08/bidens-iran-pro.html
Wasn't it Joe Biden that told Bill Clinton NOT to take the head of Bin Laden when the Arab nations ofere to deliver it to us..Oh yes it was..He was Clintons chief advisor back then.. They turned the Arabs down..AND 911 HAPPENED BECAUSE OF IT..
http://www.w3f.com/article.html
POOR JUDGEMENT..POOR LEADERSHIP.. This whole terrorist mess is the fault of the democrat party.. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT..
Posted at 2:23PM on Oct 11th 2008 by JIM
4. "Senator Obama doesn't care that abortion has obliterated the rights of more than 15 million black children since 1973," Gardner said in a statement. "He doesn't care that abortion is the No. 1 killer of African-Americans surpassing deaths caused by accidents, heart disease, stroke, crimes, HIV-AIDS and all other deaths – combined!
"He won't make one of his powerful speeches decrying the injustice of abortion providers as they plant killing centers firmly in black communities – making it easier to kill black children. Instead, he actually applauds their efforts! These children are denied their most basic human right, which is the right to life, a right which our ancestors so proudly worked for, marched for and many of them died for."
Obama's record of supporting abortion in both the Illinois state Senate and the U.S. Senate is undisputed.
Posted at 2:26PM on Oct 11th 2008 by JIM
5. EVERY EUROPEAN NATION THINKS OBAMA'S PLANS TO INCEASE CORPORATE TAXES
IS THE WRONG MOVE.. ALMOST ALL OF EUROPE HAS DECEASED THE CORPORATE BUSINESS TAX LEVELS LIKE MCCAIN HAS SUGGESTED.. OBAMA HAS PLANS TO TAX
BUSINESS TO DEATH..
Here read for yourself -- what european nations have done.. Do you think Obama knows more then all of Europe?
http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb_0707_48.pdf
Posted at 2:28PM on Oct 11th 2008 by JIM
6. Obama's bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for "food" to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.
The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation.
The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.'s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to "banning small arms and light weapons" but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_2433.html
And the only way to raise that funding, "is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels,"
On the forum run by Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, one writer reported estimates of taxes from 35 cents to $1 dollar a gallon on gasoline would be needed
Posted at 2:28PM on Oct 11th 2008 by Jim
7. well according to me racism should not be done in any perspective all should treat each other with respect and equality.And i m not the supporter of racism.
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Posted at 11:50AM on Oct 14th 2008 by wilson
8. the racism should be terminated out of the society. People should not discriminate each other on the basis of color, caste and creed. The American soceity is still in such racism acts. They should try to eliminate the word racism from their lives.
Posted at 12:19PM on Oct 14th 2008 by chris
9. From my point of view in the world there should not be any racism, because racism creates differences between peoples and affects humanity. For racism people are giving their lives and i am telling that there is no racism in the world.
Posted at 12:05PM on Oct 14th 2008 by neil
10. According to me there is no problem whoever becomes the president but the main criteria should be that the country should be out of the financial crisis and as well as there shouldnt be any kind of reason for wars as America is the first world, many other developing and under developed countries depend upon them a lot so political decisions should be taken very carefully.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
TAUSIF
Posted at 12:09PM on Oct 14th 2008 by tausifkkhan
11. The election of Obama as the President has spurred up racism even more and will effect the american people a great deal. The effects of racism are really unbearable, with people committing suicide. I think there is no such ready remedy to curb racism unless and untill the public take it upon themselves to treat the minorities like their brothers and sisters. As we are all human being with generally same features and are also created by the one and only The Almighty God. Did God discriminated in creating us? So, why are we doing so.
Posted at 12:29PM on Oct 14th 2008 by chris
12. Racism should be totally eradicated not only from America but from the world. America is not the only country facing this problem. Even in countries like England and Africa racism still exists. Each and every person is responsible to avoid racism and we should promote people by their skills and not by their colour
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Posted at 12:32PM on Oct 14th 2008 by tausifkkhan
13. mr. obama is most likely to be the president. but i dont think he is capable enough to become the president. infact hellery clinton would be more appropriate as the president
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Posted at 12:39PM on Oct 14th 2008 by sanket
14. It has been noted for years that the abortion clinics in the poorer (read:Black) neighborhoods are not in the protesters eyes.
Why is this?
Posted at 4:19PM on Oct 15th 2008 by Monika